"That's interesting. I guess it's good if people don't have their hearts set on glowing wool."

He nods. "I liked watching her, but I kinda made a mess of it when I tried to do it." He chuckles. "Maybe I could pick it up now. I don't know. That would make a pretty topsy-turvy picture, a biker punk spinning wool."

But then again, he is a very unusual biker punk.